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Singapore Airlines shifts a daily Guangzhou flight to Scoot

Only 30 'proper' Business Class seats in the SIA group will fly to and from Guangzhou per day from 28th October

Scoot Crew Outside 787 (Scoot)

Another schedule update for the coming season sees Singapore Airlines handing over one of their two daily flights between Singapore and Guangzhou to Scoot from 28th October, meaning 71% of the group’s seat capacity on the route will be served by their low-cost arm from that date, compared with 49% today.

The current schedule

Here’s how the Singapore – Guangzhou route is currently served by the SIA group. The flight highlighted in red is the one being transferred to Scoot from 28th October 2018.

Current schedule (until 27th October 2018)
Flight From / To Aircraft Days
TR100  TZtrans SIN0515 – CAN0925 320 Daily
SQ850  SQtrans SIN0820 – CAN1220 333 Daily
SQ852  SQtrans SIN2015 – CAN0015* 333 Daily
TR106  TZtrans SIN2200 – CAN0215* 789 Daily
SQ853  SQtrans CAN0120 – SIN0525 333 Daily
TR107  TZtrans CAN0355 – SIN0750 789 Daily
TR101  TZtrans CAN1040 – SIN1440 320 Daily
SQ851  SQtrans CAN1325 – SIN1730 333 Daily
SQtrans TZtrans
SIN-CAN Daily Seats 1,125 (share) 570
(51%)
555
(49%)

* Next Day

The new schedule

Changes occur to these flights including additional minor timing adjustments from 28th October 2018, with the Scoot replacement for SQ852/3 (TR104/5) highlighted in yellow in the following table:

From 28th October 2018
Flight From / To Aircraft Days
TR100  TZtrans SIN0525 – CAN0930 788 Daily
SQ850  SQtrans SIN0810 – CAN1215 333 Daily
TR104  TZtrans SIN2025 – CAN0030* 320 Daily
TR106  TZtrans SIN2230 – CAN0235* 320 Daily
TR105  TZtrans CAN0135 – SIN0555 320 Daily
TR107  TZtrans CAN0345 – SIN0810 320 Daily
TR101  TZtrans CAN1045 – SIN1500 788 Daily
SQ851  SQtrans CAN1320 – SIN1740 333 Daily
SQtrans TZtrans
SIN-CAN Daily Seats 980 (share) 285
(29%)
695
(71%)

* Next Day

Changes

  • The TR100/1 service switches from the A320 to the 787-8 from 28th October 2018. That’s a capacity increase of 155 seats on each flight.
  • The new TR104/5 is an A320 with 180 seats, which replaces an SIA A330 (SQ852/3) with 285 seats, a loss of 105 seats each way on that service.
  • The existing TR106/7 flight reverts from a 787-9 to an A320 – a loss of 195 seats per direction.
Scoot A320.jpg
A mixture of Scoot A320s (pictured) and 787s will pick up the slack from SIA’s cuts on the Guangzhou route from 28th October

Overall therefore group capacity on the route is dropping by 145 seats each way per day (13%), with the highest capacity wide-body aircraft soon concentrated on the morning services departing Singapore.

Why the change?

Two more A330s were recently removed from Singapore Airlines service for return to their leasing companies (9V-STA and -STB, both apparently destined for Brussels Airlines). The in-service A330 fleet stands at 19 as of our update yesterday, down from 21 a month ago, and more handovers back to the leasing company are due soon.

SN A330 (Brussels Airlines).jpg
Several 10-year-old ex-SIA Airbus A330s are finding a new home with Lufthansa Group carrier Brussels Airlines. (Photo: Brussels Airlines)

Furthermore there are no Boeing 787-10 deliveries planned until the last two due this year, which are now scheduled to arrive in mid October and late October respectively. Wherever SIA flies them, it seems like Guangzhou is not on the list for these planes.

Bad for business?

Shifts like this in the industry always have sound commercial reasons, however if you’re a Business Class regular on the Guangzhou route with Singapore Airlines your options have now become significantly more limited.

Assuming you’re used to this seat:

2009 RJ
SIA’s 2009 Regional Business Class has a 2-2-2 config. (Photo: MainlyMiles)

and not this:

ScootBiz 787 (Australian Business Traveller).jpg
Scoot’s 787 Business Class is in a 2-3-2 configuration. (Photo: Australian Business Traveller)

You’ll soon be restricted to just one flight in each direction per day on this route.

Aside from a 2-3-2 configuration, Scoot’s Business Class product ‘ScootBiz’ does not feature seat-back IFE and the seats do not convert into beds. Catering is not what you’d find on SIA and if a glass of Champagne on boarding is what you’re used to, expect a water in a peel-back plastic cup instead.

If that’s not obvious – it’s not a product we particularly rate – a Premium Economy experience at best!

Indeed if your usual flight on this route is the Singapore Airlines SQ852/3 timing you’ll now find only a Scoot A320 service available, which has no ScootBiz cabin and features just 180 Economy Class seats.

KrisFlyer

Since you can’t redeem your KrisFlyer miles on Scoot (well, not in any way you should normally ever consider), this change also significantly reduces redemption opportunities between Singapore and Guangzhou with only a single daily A330 service now available to choose from and no other Star Alliance presence on the route.

KFtrans

KrisFlyer Redemption Singapore – Guangzhou
Saver Advantage
Economy 15,000 30,000
Business 27,500 50,000

Nevertheless we did find at least two saver Business Class award seats available for immediate redemption between Singapore and Guangzhou on the sole remaining Singapore Airlines flight across most dates in November.

Other carriers

The Singapore – Guangzhou route is also served by China Southern Airlines, a SkyTeam member. Virgin Australia will continue to codeshare on the sole daily Singapore Airlines rotation from 28th October 2018.

Summary

Rather than replace an A330 with a brand new 787-10, as has happened on other routes recently, Singapore Airlines has decided to shift a large chunk of capacity on the Guangzhou route to Scoot from the end of October, while reducing overall group seats on the city pair by 13%.

Wide-body services with the Scoot 787 and SIA A330 are found on the morning services to Guangzhou, returning late morning / mid afternoon, while the evening northbound flights returning overnight to Singapore are now both the remit of the Scoot A320 fleet.

Hat tip to Routesonline for the SIA reduction news and replacement Scoot flight details.

(Cover Photo: Scoot)

4 comments

  1. Not exactly directly related to your story, but I now have my fingers and toes crossed, that one of those two new 787s coming in Oct, will serve FUK! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

      1. Woohoo! Hopefully…

        Not my fav SQ Metal, but would definitely prefer over the old A330s..

        Thanks for the info, Amdrew..

  2. I took biz class to CAN. It’s hardly filled, even on the 850/851 – let alone the red eye. The rationlisation is not unreasonable. They would have deployed the 787 flight to more profitable routes and leave scoot to service the less profitable one. I think they did the same for flight in Saudi.

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